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Many parents have described the school as something of a godsend, allowing them both the freedom of homeschooling and the structure of the traditional classroom. Vaccinated persons are not dying en masse. REGINA CAELI is an independent, University-Style Hybrid academy operating in the Catholic. Putting this type of stuff is incredibly sloppy when you know (or should know) it is NOT true: The reason I will never support that cult is the permanence of the priests. Sorry for the numerous comments. V. Gaude et laetare, Virgo Maria, alleluia. Is Regina Caeli going to provide Board meeting minutes for the Board meetings where Jim Graham was present as a member of the Board, while the affair was taking place? The Regina Caeli Academies (hybrid home-schools) are Regnum Christi educational foundations; the director is a Regnum Christ woman. Christ is merciful & HE alone is our Savior!! Regina Coeli Academy. Thanks for understanding. Their fundraiser, whose stated goal was $3.2 million, raised $100,128. By the way, how do you immediately seek forgiveness for an affair? By Simcha and Damien Fisher We could no longer afford it. Website Designed by Magis Guild. Abington, PA | Opened 2003. As Mrs. Beckman has started her journey towards recovery, the RCA Board of Directors has become aware of a serious spiritual matter that is the underlying basis for her current physical and emotional suffering. According to the letter from the board, Faber has been named the new interim board president. Regina Caeli families were, however, offered the opportunity to buy land at Veritatis Splendor. Now thats a lie. Root out the evil yes but dont suggest that RCA is filled with hypocrite Catholics being manipulated. Let this now carry us forward to sustain the mission of training the mind to form the soul.. But Beckman and her supporters have done their best to portray her as the victim in the current scandal. I hope the families being manipulated here can now find a healthier social and religious community. They knew what the subject matter was, but declined to take the trouble to speak to the authors. But the rigidity, lack of transparencey. Proudly created with Wix.com. Please, lets just discuss important issues with respect and integrity. Protected: Episode 63: There can be only one hole in the head. They also requested a meal train for the Beckman family. O QUEEN of heaven rejoice! Regina Caeli Academy's Catholic culture encourages students to explore the wonder of Gods creation, embody magnanimity a greatness of character and of the soul , and graduate as skilled disciples of Christ, ready to lead the next generation of Catholics. Required fields are marked *. We just re-formed without RCA, and were thriving. Graham was also, until recently, on the Board of Regina Caeli, but his name has recently been removed from that site, along with Kari Beckmans name. Sercely is referring to the fact that, in the proposed village, there will live a community of priests who are not subject to transfers or re-assignments, according to the Veritatis Splendor case statement. He belongs in a thriller. He knows the pain of narcissistic abuse. It has 97 students in grades PK, K-8 with a student-teacher ratio of 9 to 1. Classical education based on the trivium, integrated classical books, art and music, and idea-focused instruction provides students with the foundation to live a principled life and is proven to cultivate wisdom and virtue so that the love of God may abound more and more. The letter calls for Kari Beckmans husband Rich Beckman to step down as Chairman of the Board, because many Regina Caeli families have for years believed that the Board of Directors is in place simply to do Mrs. Beckmans bidding. The letter writer believes that Kari Beckman is likely to attempt to continue to run Regina Caeli by proxy. In fact, after the 2nd one, he was threatened to be expelled all b/c his FLIP PHONE dinged during study hall in his backpack and his boss was requesting if he would be able to work a shift. There are twenty-three RCA satellite schools throughout the country, and they are all run on precisely the same plan, down to minutiae of how to dress and how to have parties. The point is that the leadership was so toxic that literally hundreds of families have left with diverse but analogous stories of emotional and spiritual abuse that usually harmed moms the most. I pray she sincerely gets right with christ and her family. She bullied my mom so intensely my mom had to quit mid year. She is profiting off of the empathy of others to gain personal power, and she wants people to feel sorry for her, when in reality she has no conscience, or in fact a very dull one. 324: O tempora, o meatballs, Whats for supper? Use tab to navigate through the menu items. John is there any American Catholic conspiracy theory in which you dont indulge? God will make it clear. Imagine a world where stuff like this ever happens. The person filing the complaint also had further questions: When Regina Caeli Academy used travel and hotel rewards programs for training, campus visits, etc, who reaped the benefits of those massive rewards points? Bishop Strickland, our clergy and the seminarians are unwavering in their support for VS and have assured us that they will be united with us to keep up our fight for the good.. Hours Mon-Fri: REGINA CAELI is a non-profit 501(c) (3) religious organization. We literally do hold ourselves to a higher standard. As IF a priest who abused could not be removed from ministry by the local bishop immediately, are you kidding me? This is a policy. Iam praying for wisdom for you and all others affected by this. As Simcha Fisher disclosed in her coverage, Regina Caeli Academy, Inc., was party to a lawsuit by a family involved with RCA in Detroit, John and Marie Kruse, who "alleged that 'complete, blind, unquestioning obedience to RCA's officers and the Directors is demanded or the family is subjected to humiliation, ostracization and expulsion.'" Youve ignored my questions about the Kruse v. RCA 2016 USDC lawsuit. The suit also alleged that RCA ran afoul of Michigan charitable fundraising laws. Plus tutors keep leaving because the pay is so bad (even though they charge us, per day, similar rates to a regular private school). Regina Coeli Academy has already scrubbed their website and carries on as if nothing happened. Based on her track record, I believe the commentators. I wish you the best. We had such a scary and cruel experience. Your email address will not be published. She said that she and her husband then both went to the board of Regina Caeli and told them what had occurred, and then stepped down as Executive Director. Three other board members are no longer listed on the site, and Nicole Juba has been named acting Executive Director. Are these several members different people who you personally interviewed? There is this total obsession with not talking sideways or gossiping. I agree with you. They always are. All I can see is that the suit was dropped. This needed to be done. The only way out is a penitential response proportionate to the magnitude of the harm, that is, for Mrs Beckman to live a private penitential life for the rest of her life; to remind every parent and child involved that our faith is in Christ Jesus, not in any human person; and for the schools, if they continue to exist, to divest entirely from any involvement with Mr or Mrs Beckman or anyone else who knew of the scandalous financial and/or sexual behavior. In-classroom lessons two days a week and in-home lesson plans that support parents the other three days a week. They trusted her and even though we were wronged in the past by her here in the Michigan location, we forgive here. Shortly before she stepped down, the Board of Directors received an anonymous letter alleging Beckman had carried on an illicit sexual relationship with Graham. I was so excited when RCA came to my area, but after joining the RCA FB group for my area, going to a meeting about it and looking at what they demanded for school, I decided not to do it. Now what Beckman did was wrong but there is still some good that came from the schoolswhat they teach is good, the good prayers, that God is the center of everything. You probably are suffering from C-PTSD. Im going to presume that you are in firsthand contact with the writer of the anonymous letter, and presume that the writer of the anonymous letter and the writer of the formal complaint to the IRS are the same person (although you dont make that clear), and that you have reviewed both. Thats not true. Locations. Im doing it for the payoff of seeing children, my own included, grow in their faith in a joyful environment with peers who also revere their faith. Should you not verify your facts before you publish them, especially in an emotional situation? I had even offered to find another family to take our place that same school year and our only response was speak to my attorney. You have plenty of dirt; lets just have the verified dirt. Protected: Podcast 51: the Grift of the Magi, Protected: Podcast #50: The Five Stages of Revenge, Podcast 49: Not trying to hurry you (FREE PODCAST! Campus classes are taught by teachers (we call them tutors) trained in the classical curriculum and the Socratic method to lead intentional discussion throughout the material as your child grows through stages of grammar, logic, and rhetoric. None of us are perfect and most of us are just making our journey through this life wanting to serve Christ in this world as He called us to do. Protected: Podcast 42: Jarods Prancing Musical Show! We are open to all students regardless of race, color, sex, national origin, and ethnic origin. You were lucky that your CCE didnt follow that practice. This isnt the first time Regina Caeli has been accused of a lack of financial transparency. Protected: Podcast 36: She googled THIS on a Friday night and what she saw made her lose her mind! He is the devils mouthpiece. He told me that during confession and almost withheld absolution because of the divorce. I hope this conversation about RCA continues and people learn for themselves how truly cultish and medieval this place was from the start. The families that started there were amazing and holy. They state they will have an independent financial audit and promise to provide periodic updates to increase financial transparency. I have never heard of this writer until this article so I definitely am not a devotee to her journalism. Liked it? She asked not to be identified, for fear of reprisal. In which I get interviewed about sex and stuff again! Private Independent Study Program for Catholic Families in the San Diego County area. Tuition, which covers two classroom days (for which uniforms are required), ranges from $2,800 per PreK student for a half day to $4,500 per high school student. Christmas Gifts our 10 kids loved: The 2021 list, View Damien and Simcha Fishers profile on Google+, After bombshell revelations about an illicit relationship between board members and possible financial misconduct, the homeschool hybrid academy abruptly announced their affiliation with the utopian megadevelopment Veritatis Splendor, Their fundraiser, whose stated goal was $3.2 million, raised $100,128, Whats for supper? The law, which has undergone several legal challenges, has been unpopular even within some factions of the conservative pro-life community, some of whom view it as anything from distasteful to politically reckless to counter-productive. Vol. How about instead of spending all this time focused on someone elses sins, you go to confession for being such an asshole. That would be the usual course after allegations of mismanagement and financial irregularities by a charitable organization. There are bizarre stories of moral panic over innocent outings with even the whiff of immorality. She has no empathy, and a grandiose controlling ego. Compare Regina Coeli Academy to Other Schools School Details Grades PK, K-8 Students 97 Student-Teacher Ratio 9:1 National 17:1 Full-Time Teachers 8 Part-Time Teachers 6 Tuition Yearly Tuition The former employee said that she remembers how Beckman once saw a staff member post on social media about decorating her house for Christmas, and Beckman contacted her to chide her, saying that visible Christmas decorations during the Advent season could cause scandal. Narcissists despise the vulnerability and create a false mask to mirror a relationship, they mirror empathy only with an end goal in mind- its psychological control. They want to bring stuff out into the light, Lets do it!!! As an RCA family, you enjoy the freedom of using the curricula and resources of your choosing, while knowing you are supported in meeting the homeschool requirements in your state. Fr. Souls are at stake. The letter-writer alleged, Mrs. My ICU and PCU and floor is full of unvaccinated COVID patients and my health system is bringing in FEMA staffing so we can support our ICUs. It enrages me that the founder of such a moral school has the audacity to present RCA as a safe haven only for it to be a cult to push her own harmful agenda down the throats of CHILDREN and take financial advantage of our parents. Matt, your comment could apply to every source quoted in this article. paying members homeschool their own children for three days a week, using a standardized curriculum, and the school provides support and access to tutors and extracurricular activities. I still support the RCA program even if the implementation of certain policies were, say, unfortunate at best. Perhaps if we turned down on the volume about how horrifying it is to exist in a world where we dont hang women whove had abortions or burn drag queens at the stake, we might avoid scandals like this in the future. Your email address will not be published. v. RCA, USDC Eastern Mich 2016. I live in walking distance of the RCA in Atlanta. Regina . This will relieve RCA from all financial burdens with regard to VS. Graham, who appears in a fundraising video for Veritatis Splendor along with Beckman, has been Executive Director of Texas Right to Life, which was founded by his father, since 1994. In 2016, a former RCA member filed a lawsuit alleging that, when he asked to review financial information so he could determine how the school was spending the money their group raised and solicited, the director responded that it was not RCAs style to provide any financial information, other than the IRS form 990s. The suit alleges RCA then retaliated against the entire family for their inquiry. Sheesh! For He whom thou didst merit to bear, alleluia, Vol. One purchase has been confirmed. Beckman uses Regina Caeli as her personal bank account and that Beckman hand-selected the board to do her bidding, and deliberately hid her financial activities from the families who supplied the money she allegedly spent. Sercely quit Regina Caeli when the homeschool hybrid academy abruptly announced their affiliation with the utopian megadevelopment Veritatis Splendor. I was never expected to recruit and Regina Caeli helped my family tremendously during the several years I was there. Were those put on Regina Caeli rewards cards, or Mrs. Beckmans personal rewards cards? I wouldnt blame them though if they skipped reading all this blather. Did the Beckman family travel and vacation using those points? My kids, all in elementary, are at one of the newer satellites. 2. But its not merely a matter of spiritual hypocrisy that distresses this and other Regina Caeli families. Beckman reminded prospective buyers that, while the lots are selling quickly, there is no need to build right away after purchasing one, and that lots may be purchased for primary or vacation/retreat homes.. She is just as sketchy just in different ways. I am here for you, so that you can be fully there for your children. If you ever been a family with serious marriage concerns, you know the headspace to cook and clean is not there. We are a world of sinners, myself included. Regina Caeli Academy New Search County: Santa Clara Located within the boundaries of this public school district: San Jose Unified: School: Regina Caeli Academy CDS Code: 43 69666 7087646 School Address: Information Redacted San Jose, CA 95131-3422 . "A Catholic education should help one to get into Heaven, not Harvard. It resonates with me because I had an experience with a priest in confession at St. Patricks Cathedral in NYC a few years ago who implied that I should be homeless rather than to pursue the only option for housing that I could think of that I could afford, called me a slut, accused me of confessing sins I wasnt sorry for, refused me absolution, and said that Id have to live without the sacraments. Where I live we have a local parish school where I live, many of the teachers are mothers of the students or former students. Fundraising at Regina Caeli was of the utmost importance. Kari had bright, talented, hardworking, under appreciated people working directly or indirectly for her and looking up to her, but they all have terrible personal judgment and cant be in charge. Why give false information??? It starts with totally appropriate conflict resolution based on [the book of] Matthew: Go to your brother, etc. When I and many other families expressed our surprise and displeasure at this being sprung on us out of nowhere, we were basically told, Its our organization and we can do whatever the heck we want, and if you dont like it, theres the door,' one former tutor said. Vol. The vaxxed are dying en masse. Amen. Vaccination is not poison. Podcast #57: And then the internet took off. Beckman, who founded the homeschool hybrid Regina Caeli Academy in 2003, sent a letter to the members of Regina Caeli at the end of last week acknowledging a terrible lapse in judgment with a personal relationship. Multiple sources confirmed the relationship was with Jim Graham. The purchase for the land on which Veritatis Splendor was to be built was made with a loan from James Faber, a Regina Caeli board member. As a first principle, this is good. They had taken away my tutor job for no given reason and gave it to someone else and therefore the tuition was beyond our means. Parents who are also tutors receive a discount on the entire program, and all members are expected to fundraise and to recruit new members, in addition to paying tuition. 323: We are an Epiphany people are we are going to bed, No knives out after the death of Benedict, Whats for supper? Prayers and a meal for their children in a tumultuous time when their parents are struggling? Id be very interested to hear. Prayers for the families affected by this. Transfer Authorization: Students transferring . She headlined all the things she accomplished as a real estate mogul, in an elevated tone, while talking to my husband, as though I didnt exist and I wasnt in the room sitting there. I hope that their local communities can work with their dioceses and form their own group with the guidance of the Church. 323: We are an Epiphany people are we are going to bed, No knives out after the death of Benedict, Whats for supper? Our five-day-a-week program provides a timeless, content rich-curriculum in the classical method, with instruction in morality and virtuous living. Agreed 100%. The Board will initiate an independent forensic audit and promises to provide periodic updates to increase transparency. Who funded Kari Beckmans fall from grace? If nothing else, he knows how to hire good people. Key Facts. Liked it? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. They usually dont in secret government investigations. Note how the subjects of the article decided not to respond to questions. It just became too much. The vaxxed are dying en masse. While members are reeling from the recent revelations, many hope the good fruits of the school can be rescued from Beckmans influence. Several members recalled that, when they applied to teach for Regina Caeli, they were required to sign a statement of fidelity to the magisterium, and that, during their interview, Regina Caeli recruiters asked them if their marriage was canonically valid, and whether they use contraception. Because thats how dedicated they are. If its not true, why wont you go on record? Protected: Podcast 38: In which we hit rock bottom. So sad and pathetic that in their collective attempt to thwart any exposure to sin, they were all entrenched in every manner of sin. That tells you a lot. Protected: Podcast 40: Naked purple capybaras of the world, unite! Per eundem Christum Dominum nostrum. unbelievable, said one Regina Caeli Academy parent and former tutor. People dont understand that sometimes divorce is necessary. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Hours Mon-Fri: REGINA CAELI is a non-profit 501(c) (3) religious organization. Not one red cent, not one nanosecond of my time.. Im praying for the children and families hit by the full impact of this true scandal, including the Beckmans young and grown children. This has been our familys experience. Thanks Mrs. Wolfgang! 14382 Carnitas St. Ramona, CA 92065. Google Map Link opens new browser tab. Kari Beckman made everyone believe they werent holy enough because they let their kids wear tank tops or watch Disney movies. I truly believe God brings what is done in the dark to light -He creates a storm to clear the path for the truth !! The entitlement, the blameshifting, the coercive control, the spiritual abuseall of it. Roswell, GA 30076 Hear! Whats for supper? helpingIndependent Catholic familieshome educate their children since 1994. Many people still choose to remain anonymous for various reasons. School Information 600 Regina Parkway Toledo, OH 43612 Phone : 419-476-0920 Website: http://www.regina-coeli.org Hours of Operation Office Hours: 7:30 am - 3:00 pm Mon-Fri School Hours: 7:30 am - 3:00 pm Mon-Fri School Staff Barbara Lane School Principal 419-476-0920 principal@regina-coeli.org Amy Werner School Secretary 419-476-0920 It was last updated on April 30 with a conceptual rendering of the oratory. A bummer to read about Kari, but we all know that good fruit from an organization can still be abundant even if the leaders publicly and dramatically stumble. I attended RCA my whole life preschool to 12 grade. But there were a few things from this article that jumped out at me and Id love to hear your perspective. Yup. V. Rejoice and be glad, O Virgin Mary, alleluia. Please explore my website to discover all I offer, my recommendations for resources, and then "contact me" or set an appointment to let me know how I can help. The vaxx is a blood poison. If hell had a blog, this would be it. All the time. We are called to live IN the world, not segregated in a Catholic commune where the (cult)ure of silence and toxic obedience leads to corrupt leadership as we see here (and in the magisterium). Thats good. Wow. While these women went on to found an independent Roman Catholic school locally (still in existence and stronger than ever), they also began a legacy of handing down the . Sercely said she had had some hesitations about Regina Caeli when she first joined. can be deceived via their own convictions. I have long voiced to other local Catholics my concerns about this school, so I am not surprised by any of this. You can try Aiden down on 42nd, but his stuff seems poor quality I always barf through the high. RCA has been a blessing to us and the tutors are wonderful. Plots of land are available for sale for between $90,000 and $250,000. "Parents and those who take their place are bound by the obligation and possess the right of educating their offspring. This is all like a bad, dubbed, soap opera without the stylish outfits. Haters are on here saying theyre brainwashing kids, its a cult $5k scam, the scam is the involuntary public school district taxes, wasted on crap thinking and institutions, hemorrhaging kids, searching for alternatives like RCA if they can find it. Keep things in the proper channels of communication. Michael Palud, C.O. I honestly can say I am not the least bit shocked at this turn of events. If you can find a therapist that specializes in highly sensitive people (empaths) and narcissistic abuse- you will start standing on your own two feet, cutting the strings of manipulation your mother tied you up with years ago. We want to assure our Viculus families that the mission of Veritatis Spendor will continue without interruption, and that if anything, this shows just how important the work of this community really is. Misogynistic dress code and focusing heavily on females covering their bodies, and ignoring the need for males to learn to control their eyes? I wish RCAs hybrid program were available to us 30+ years ago! We offer accredited classical academic and extracurricular classes to preschool - 12th grade students two days a week. My son had *TWO* cell phones confiscated and they were not returned until May per the handbook rules! Too often, those most invested in a group or institution have the greatest interest in whitewashing and covering up. We live in a culture of narcissists- they are everywhere, and you cant let them know you know, because they will fly into rage. Mind you, I dont have a single dog in this fight but this whole story, as described, had more red flags in the beginning than a communist parade. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Ms. Juba is now the Executive Director. I pride myself on my honesty and integrity. I totally believe the former student as well -God brings what is done in the dark to the Light This was a long time coming !!!!! Regina Caeli UK is a centre for home educators operating in the Catholic tradition, with pastoral support from the Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). I can assure you though, whether the anonymous letter writer and formal complaint were WRITTEN by the same person, there are multiple people involved behind the scenes that brought that to fruition. Not a lie. The Catholic Church is infiltrated with hypocrites (aka Pope Francis and many liberal bishops). Our classical curriculum insists that the purpose of education is to cultivate a mind pursuant of truth and includes robust coursework in reading, writing, Latin, mathematics, music, debate, and the visual arts. Roswell, GA 30076. Do we read books about Robert E. Lee? She said in her letter to RCA members that keeping the secret of her relationship left me feeling despondent and it began to take a physical toll on my mind and my body., She said, I have been in therapy and have been receiving daily spiritual direction in order to get strong enough to face my shame. I had to flee to a friends house with the children for safety and it was a day after that that I went into an acute psychosis and had to be hospitalized! No board member has responded to our repeated calls for comment. They are self-seeking, and feign intimacy. This is two heads of very Catholic organizations. OTOH, the main argument in favor of pulling out NOW is the risk of the abusive atmosphere of corporate filtering down to the teachers, who will take it out on my kids. This is how the business works. The suit also alleged that RCA ran afoul of Michigan charitable fundraising laws. I sincerely thank you. As a former RCA student I completely agree with this comment. ). God saved me and the children. 1565 Holcomb Bridge Road. Our Vision Do true journalism and present all the facts not your emotions. Can we find a shed of truth in the comments section everyone once in a while? Bring everything out into the light, what Kari Beckman has done wrong & who is accusing her of each thing Christ owns whats in the light!! I am currently going through a VERY necessary divorce and the lambasting from my Catholic friends was initially crushing. The school cracked down on staffers who shared photos of themselves in tank tops on social media. 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